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Steve G.
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Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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October 31, 2023, 07:53:55 PM »
My garage residents have proven to be pretty easy to deal with. Fresh fluids and filters throughout, grease were needed.
A couple bikes do require money to be spent, and this is a good time to get on it.
Laverda Jota. Mk2 Jotas suffer from a well known situation with their front fender. Laverda hand made their own tin ware including fenders. Unique to Mk2 front fenders was a cracking from vibration right at the front. Their fix was to knurl the front like the back of the fender. They instituted this fix on the 1982 Jota 120 ( production of perhaps 260 machines) and 1200 Mirage with 180 crank engines. The bracketry and assembly is the same as the pre knurled front fender.
Of course Wolfgang has brand new OEM fenders in stock in factory metallic grey, so a local paint shop will be entrusted to match the rest of the bike.
Norton 850 Commando. During the International Norton Rally last summer I noticed the speedometer was acting spastic, especially after a long run of racing with buddies at speeds over 90 mph. Putting a drill on the Speedo drive cable showed that the gauge was operating nice and smooth. I suspected the Speedo drive on the rear wheel axle, as it was a non English made unit. Pulling the rear wheel showed carnage and death of the unit. 3 day delivery from Walridge Motors in Ontario meant easy repairs. I also noticed very poor condition of the Cush drive rubbers on the rear hub drive, again 3 day delivery and very reasonable prices.
That’s really it. If I feel energetic I might check valve clearances on the Norton after retorque the head, renew a couple tapper cover gaskets that don’t seem to seal good anymore.
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS
Previous Garage Residents
1966 Keystone Tas 50
1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
1966 BSA 250 Starfire
1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
1982 Suzuki SP500
1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
1979 Honda CBX
1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
1993 BMW R100GSPD
1984 Honda CR500
1979 Honda CBX sandcast
1975 Honda 400-4 SS
2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
1980 Honda CBX
1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 01, 2023, 05:19:25 AM »
I changed the air filter on my Goldwing. That took most of a week! The Wing needs new rear brake pads, which will take another week. The cruise control hasn't worked since I bought the bike so this winter I plan to fix it. I need to change the oil and filter, which will take most of a day.
The Z1 and KZ1000 have been sleeping all season and I don't plan any work on them.
The KZ650 is near completion, other than paint and an exhaust. Time to spend some money.
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Past rides include a 1973 Suzuki GT380 & a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B
I currently ride a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B - Classic Plated
I also ride a 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD - Classic Plated, and a 2006 Honda Goldwing with a Daytona 2+2 sidecar
My Sweetums rides a 2019 Suzuki DR650
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 01, 2023, 04:41:21 PM »
The insurance on the Tracer900 ran out today. Put it up on the lift. New Yamalube filter and synthetic oil. When I get to it, next time my truck needs gas, I’ll get a jerry can of fuel and tip top the tank.
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Past rides:
75 Honda CB750K5
80 Suzuki TS250
? Yamaha Maxim 550
73 Z1 900
76 Kz900 A1
77 Kz1000 A1
78 Kz1000 B2 Ltd
79 Kz1000 B3 Ltd
80 Kz1000 C
99 Triumph Tiger 900
84 Honda VF750 Interceptor
77 Honda CB750
Current ride:
2019 Yamaha Tracer900
Current project:
1975 Honda CB750K5
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 01, 2023, 06:43:03 PM »
Other than routine maintenance we are going to start the Triumph TSX project. Will try and get it on the road by next season although cosmetics may take a little longer. June wants it rideable in the New Year.
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Steve G.
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 01, 2023, 07:09:51 PM »
I didn't realize you had a Meriden Triumph TSX John. Are you aware how very rare those are???
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS
Previous Garage Residents
1966 Keystone Tas 50
1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
1966 BSA 250 Starfire
1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
1982 Suzuki SP500
1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
1979 Honda CBX
1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
1993 BMW R100GSPD
1984 Honda CR500
1979 Honda CBX sandcast
1975 Honda 400-4 SS
2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
1980 Honda CBX
1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 02, 2023, 09:04:09 AM »
Steve, my understanding is 100 TSX Bonnevilles came to North America in which 3 of them came to Canada. We started work on it before illness fell on me so it has been a couple of years waiting in the garage as others came first and now we are caught up unless of course we get a call from the "enabler" June will be getting her fingers dirty on this one also as she wants me to teach her my limited skills!
I will try and get a couple of Pics and post them on the site.
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 02, 2023, 03:22:35 PM »
Looking forward to photos on your next project. Don't recall WHAT made the TSK Bonnevilles different from the rest. I have a friend in Kamloops with a mid 80's Bonneville, which I believe is a 5 speed, and is in good condition tucked away. He also has a '64 Bonny on a stand in his living room. I seem to recall the speedo showed about 135 miles.
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Current rides:
2022 Suzuki V-Strom 650
"SOME" PAST RIDES: In no particular order
51 Matchless 500 single 53 AJS 500 single
62 Triumph T-100SS 57 Triumph T-100R
66 Norton N-15 - 750 Scrambler
68 Honda CB 450 68 Honda CB-250
69 Honda CL 450 71 Suzuki 350
73 Suzuki GT-550 Triple 71(?) Honda SL-350
73 Honda XL-250 76 Honda CB-400F
77 Yamaha XS 500 80 Suzuki GS-550E
81 Suzuki GS-750E 81 Suzuki GS1100E
81 Honda CB-900C
with Hondaline Tour Pak '02 Honda CB-900F(Hornet 919)
'90 Honda ST-1100 (collector status)
'83 Suzuki GS-750 T (collector status) '82 Suzuki GS-550 Katana
'80 Suzuki GS-850 G '80 Suzuki GS-1000G(collector status)
'06-Suzuki DL-650 V-Strom '81 Suzuki GS-550 "T" (collector status)
2009 Suzuki Burgman 650 Mega Scooter
'82 Yamaha Seca 650
'07 Yamaha FJR-1300 82 Suzuki GS-850G-Collector status
'86 Suzuki GS-400ES 82 Suzuki GS-650GL-Collector status
'79 Honda CBX 82 Suzuki GS-650-G-Collector status
'81 Honda CBX (x2) 82 Honda 450 Hawk
98 Triumph Trophy 900 06 Kawasaki Concours
'05 Suzuki Burgman 650(Super Scooter)
2018 Suzuki Burgman Executive 650 Scooter
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 02, 2023, 05:53:43 PM »
Here is a couple of Pix of Junes TSX from the garage today Will need to rebuild the brake callipers and try and get the master cylinders freed up, a bit of my favorite thing (electrics)
After removing them the bike still would not roll Clutch was stuck so put it against the concrete wall and hit the starter button and that freed it up. Engine starts now also
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Steve G.
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 02, 2023, 08:55:18 PM »
Some interesting information about the TSX model:
Essentially a Triumph Bonneville with "West Coast" American styling, the TSX was distinguished by many details. The outstanding feature was its lowered chassis and 16-inch-diameter (410 mm) rear wheel (instead of the usual 18 inch rim) with the engine offset in the frame, a unique swingarm and a suitably abbreviated chromed chainguard all to accommodate this.[4][5][6]
The TSX engine was a standard American specification T140ES (electric start Bonneville) 748 cc (45.6 cu in)[4] with two 32-mm Bing carburettors[6] (made under licence by Amal[7]) and Lucas electronic ignition.[5] Although the German importer offered electric start as an option for their TSX, in all other markets, it was the kickstart that was the optional extra.[8] Whilst retaining the polished outer covers, the rest of the TSX engine differed cosmetically being black painted with the cooling fin edges bright polished.[6][4] The engine's chromed exhaust pipes were of a larger bore than the standard Bonneville with a balance pipe between the short megaphone silencers hidden under the frame.[4][6]
The TSX frame differed from the standard Bonneville frame in having the mounting points for the Paioli rear shock absorbers set at a lower angle for the lower seat height emulating a 'low rider' look and a bracket to enable the exterior mounting of the Brembo rear brake master cylinder.[4] The TSX seat unique to the model had a pronounced step so that the rider sat in rather than upon it.[4] The passenger grabrail was also unique to the TSX being raised to take account of the higher step of the passenger seating and rubber-mounted the rear turn indicators.[6] The TSX side panels were new too and of a more abbreviated form than those of other Triumph models.[6][4] Both the front and rear mudguards were shorter than the standard Bonneville, the former being from the failed T140D Bonneville Special albeit now with a painted finish.[6][4] The rear mudguard had a black plastic extension for the large vehicle registration plate mandatory in the United Kingdom.[4]
The TSX fuel tank was a unique design made in Italy for the model having only one angled Paioli left hand petrol tap situated ahead to accommodate the larger Bing carburettors and off-set engine.[6] This tank also had Moulton's specified centralised filler hole with an optional locking cap (mandatory for America) and a balance pipe situated on the front of the tank's underside.[4][3][5][9] For the first time on a Bonneville model, decals were used to decorate the tank and side panels, these being of the gold-hand lined red/orange/yellow stripe type.[6][4] The underlying TSX paint scheme was initially Burgundy with a Midnight Black version later offered alongside it from August 1982.[6][4][3] Midnight Blue was proposed as a further alternative for the unrealised 1983/4 version of the TSX.[4]
A slightly lower rise and wider USA style handlebar was fitted and chromed Lucas turn indicators returned in place of the black plastic ULO items that had replaced them on other Triumph models from 1981.[6][4][5] A chromed Lucas H4 headlamp was mounted on a thick chromed wire surround.[6][8][10]
A Brembo rear brake master cylinder was fitted in place of the usual Automotive Products (AP) Lockheed item which remained for the front, as well as supplying both front and rear calipers. Dual front discs were an option.[11][5][4]
Although the 1982–1983 brochure showed Goodyear 'Eagle' tyres fitted, an Avon 'Roadrunner' rear and 'Speedmaster' front tyre went on production models, the tyres' raised lettering being picked out in white.[6][8]
Whilst there were components from Germany such as the Magura choke lever and Bumm mirrors and Italian Veglia instruments , Brembo rear brake master cylinder and Paioli rear shock absorbers and petrol tap, the only American parts on the TSX, a model targeting the American market, were the Morris alloy wheels.[4]
Production
Assembly of the TSX component parts was to begin in March 1982 with the model being unveiled the following month at the 1982 International Motorcycle Show at the National Exhibition Centre with Moulton in attendance and production starting in June. Moulton forecast sales of 1000 TSX provided the first ones arrived stateside no later than June 1982 ready for the 1983 spring selling season.[1] Referencing Japanese rivals in the factory custom low rider market, Moulton advertised the TSX stateside with the line, A Yamakawahonzuki It Ain't.[2] This was Triumph Motorcycles America's last press advertisement.[12] Despite being well-received stateside,[13] Triumph could only afford to export 140 TSX to the target American market.[9]
Epilogue
The TSX, unchanged but with an extra Midnight Blue colour option, was to have been included in the factory's unrealised 1984 range It was called the TSX4 to distinguish it from its proposed new stablemate the similarly styled TSX8. The TSX8 was instead fitted with the eight valve engine from the Triumph T140W TSS. Side panel badges added a '4' or '8' to reflect the new designations.[4][15] Wayne Moulton originally designed the TSX with the 8-valve TSS engine in mind but this engine had not been finalised in time for production.[9]
Production of all Triumph models ceased with the closure of the Meriden works on August 26, 1983.[1]
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS
Previous Garage Residents
1966 Keystone Tas 50
1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
1966 BSA 250 Starfire
1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
1982 Suzuki SP500
1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
1979 Honda CBX
1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
1993 BMW R100GSPD
1984 Honda CR500
1979 Honda CBX sandcast
1975 Honda 400-4 SS
2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
1980 Honda CBX
1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 02, 2023, 10:07:53 PM »
I know a guy in Spences bridge that used to have one.
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Steve G.
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 03, 2023, 04:46:55 PM »
Test rode the Commando today. Speedo indicates close to my GPS, is smooth, quiet, shifts great and brakes work good, using the updated manual of the INOA Norton Service Notes. It’s still spitting a bit of grease, but much less than before so that’s a good thing I guess.
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS
Previous Garage Residents
1966 Keystone Tas 50
1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
1966 BSA 250 Starfire
1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
1982 Suzuki SP500
1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
1979 Honda CBX
1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
1993 BMW R100GSPD
1984 Honda CR500
1979 Honda CBX sandcast
1975 Honda 400-4 SS
2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
1980 Honda CBX
1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 03, 2023, 10:17:53 PM »
The TSX graphics remind me of the early 80's Yamaha 650 Seca.
Looks like it's in nice condition hopefully it will make a showing at the Fort next year.
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Steve G.
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 06, 2023, 01:26:26 PM »
Research on replacing the aftermarket rear shock on my airhead GS, currently a failed Progressive shock. Never was happy with this unit, very stiff and slow rebound, coupled with the spring which wore against the factory sized tire, and ultimately leaking now, and apparently expensive to rebuild.
Various interaction involving best price, solid capability, avoidance of Chinese made product, has led me to ordering an Ikon Dial-a-Ride Monoshock with preload and rebound adjustment. Best price delivered from suppliers in North America was Walridge Motors in Ontario.
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS
Previous Garage Residents
1966 Keystone Tas 50
1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
1966 BSA 250 Starfire
1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
1982 Suzuki SP500
1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
1979 Honda CBX
1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
1993 BMW R100GSPD
1984 Honda CR500
1979 Honda CBX sandcast
1975 Honda 400-4 SS
2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
1980 Honda CBX
1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
Steve G.
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 22, 2023, 10:12:42 PM »
Further to Wednesday's coffee conversation with Wheels and the current project of June's Triumph TSX, here's a selection of sale items, as well as current inventory of parts for her bike at Walridge Motors:
https://www.walridge.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/SALES-FLYER-2023.pdf
http://www.walridge.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Walridge-Catalogue-2018.pdf
Page 70-74 exhaust
Page 96 chainguards
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Garage Residents:
'74 Honda CT70
'74 Norton 850 Interstate
'81 Laverda Jota Mk11 180
'89 Honda RC30
'91 BMW R100GS
'08 Honda XR650L
'08 BMW R1200GS
Previous Garage Residents
1966 Keystone Tas 50
1981 Can-Am 250 MX6
1966 BSA 250 Starfire
1972 Triumph 650 hardtail chopper
1976 Honda 400-4 Supersport
1982 Can-Am 500 Sonic
1982 Suzuki SP500
1984 Kawasaki KZ 750 L4
1979 Honda CBX
1988 Ducati 750 Paso 750 Euro
1972 Suzuki 750 GT ‘Kettle’
1972 Kawasaki 750 H2
1993 BMW R100GSPD
1984 Honda CR500
1979 Honda CBX sandcast
1975 Honda 400-4 SS
2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
1980 Honda CBX
1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
hardrockminer
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Re: Winter 2023/24 Garage Projects
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November 23, 2023, 05:39:14 AM »
I pulled the front wheel off the Goldwing to check the brakes. They are fine! With the wheel off I decided to pull the lower front covers to clean them and discovered a new way to change the oil and filter! So that's done! The rear part of the front fender has a serious crack needing some glue, so that's next. Then reassemble everything.
Next on the list is the rear brakes and rear differential oil change. I should also check the sidecar brake but I have no room on that side so will have to turn the bike around and back it into the shop, preferably before the snow flies. Otherwise it may wait til next spring.
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Past rides include a 1973 Suzuki GT380 & a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B
I currently ride a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B - Classic Plated
I also ride a 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD - Classic Plated, and a 2006 Honda Goldwing with a Daytona 2+2 sidecar
My Sweetums rides a 2019 Suzuki DR650
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