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« Reply #1935 on: July 15, 2018, 09:39:29 PM »
I like the center stand idea, well executed!
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« Reply #1936 on: July 16, 2018, 07:30:40 AM »
Yup, great idea. If you’ve a center stand kicking around. The KZ LTDS didn’t have one. Try and find one. And the cost of the aftermarket stands plus bolts gets really expensive.
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Past rides:
75 Honda CB750K5
80 Suzuki TS250
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73 Z1 900
76 Kz900 A1
77 Kz1000 A1
78 Kz1000 B2 Ltd
79 Kz1000 B3 Ltd
80 Kz1000 C
99 Triumph Tiger 900
84 Honda VF750 Interceptor
77 Honda CB750


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« Reply #1937 on: July 16, 2018, 05:26:03 PM »

Hey, that Z1 electrical video was great! If I saw the same video you did, it looks like an original Kawasaki training video.

I had a nice ride to Hope today. My buddy has a beautiful 1992 Suzuki Katana 1100 with Collector plates. Nice (powerful) Bike!

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Current Rides - 1973 Kawasaki Z1, 1976 Kawasaki KZ900 custom, 1987 Honda Shadow 1100
1975 Kawasaki Z1 B 900 restoration project.
Past rides - 1989 Kawasaki Ninja 600R, Yamaha RZ350, Kawasaki GPZ750, Kawasaki 500 Triple, Yamaha RD350, Yamaha 100 Twin Jet.
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« Reply #1938 on: July 16, 2018, 05:33:24 PM »
Here is a better angle of the Katana.
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Current Rides - 1973 Kawasaki Z1, 1976 Kawasaki KZ900 custom, 1987 Honda Shadow 1100
1975 Kawasaki Z1 B 900 restoration project.
Past rides - 1989 Kawasaki Ninja 600R, Yamaha RZ350, Kawasaki GPZ750, Kawasaki 500 Triple, Yamaha RD350, Yamaha 100 Twin Jet.
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« Reply #1939 on: July 16, 2018, 05:57:18 PM »
Nice Katana!

Today I tried to figure out why I have full voltage on both sides of my coils.  It's a mystery to me.
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Past rides include a 1973 Suzuki GT380 & a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B

I currently ride a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B - Classic Plated
I also ride a 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD - Classic Plated, and a 2006 Honda Goldwing with a Daytona 2+2 sidecar

My Sweetums rides a 2019 Suzuki DR650
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« Reply #1940 on: July 16, 2018, 07:36:04 PM »
Electricity is voodoo magic.

I worked for a contractor who did Hydro line work/poles. Saw some weird scary stuff a few times.
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« Reply #1941 on: July 17, 2018, 04:48:41 AM »

Your coil problem sounds brutal!
You have probably already tried this but its worth a mention.
Dynatek has a good testing procedure. "Dyna-s ignition system and coil testing" It is the top download in the link below.
http://www.dynaonline.com/support/downloads.aspx?p_v=DYNA%20S
I used it to find my bad coil.
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Current Rides - 1973 Kawasaki Z1, 1976 Kawasaki KZ900 custom, 1987 Honda Shadow 1100
1975 Kawasaki Z1 B 900 restoration project.
Past rides - 1989 Kawasaki Ninja 600R, Yamaha RZ350, Kawasaki GPZ750, Kawasaki 500 Triple, Yamaha RD350, Yamaha 100 Twin Jet.
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« Reply #1942 on: July 17, 2018, 05:16:10 AM »
Thanks for the link.  I have the instructions.  The coils are fine.  I've had them off and tested them.  

Part of the test procedure is to set the magnet on the advance mechanism to straight up.  That way it's not activating either pickup.  Voltage on the hot side should be 12 volts or close to it.  Voltage on the black/green wires should be about 1 volt but in my case I have full voltage.  Either the Dyna setup is bad or I have a short into the coil wires somewhere.  I'm assuming at this point that the Dyna setup is fine but I have a short into the coil wires from somewhere.
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Past rides include a 1973 Suzuki GT380 & a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B

I currently ride a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B - Classic Plated
I also ride a 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD - Classic Plated, and a 2006 Honda Goldwing with a Daytona 2+2 sidecar

My Sweetums rides a 2019 Suzuki DR650
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« Reply #1943 on: July 17, 2018, 02:11:43 PM »

So, On my 73 Z1 I installed my new coils and spark plug wires and the #1 and #4 plugs still aren't firing.
This is after going through the complete trouble shooting guide by Dynatek and finding a faulty coil for the #1 and #4 spark plugs.

The Dyna ignition system tests fine on both sides. The timing is perfect. I'm getting proper voltage to the coils etc.
At this point I might re-install the old points.
It's either that or try another $200.00 experiment by replacing the dyna ignition system.

Dang!! Back to square one
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Current Rides - 1973 Kawasaki Z1, 1976 Kawasaki KZ900 custom, 1987 Honda Shadow 1100
1975 Kawasaki Z1 B 900 restoration project.
Past rides - 1989 Kawasaki Ninja 600R, Yamaha RZ350, Kawasaki GPZ750, Kawasaki 500 Triple, Yamaha RD350, Yamaha 100 Twin Jet.
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« Reply #1944 on: July 17, 2018, 03:20:28 PM »
Just a thought, check out how the reg/rec is working
also leaving ignition on too long might have damaged a coil
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« Reply #1945 on: July 17, 2018, 04:51:01 PM »
Finally got mine working.  The little clip Dyna provides to hook the pickup wires into the red/yellow hot side was not making contact.  I found another source and was able to set things up properly.

Z1eh, if you're Dyna ignition system is working fine then why change it?  Sounds like the problem is your 1/4 coil.  I would pull it and check impedance. 
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Past rides include a 1973 Suzuki GT380 & a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B

I currently ride a 1975 Kawasaki Z1B - Classic Plated
I also ride a 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD - Classic Plated, and a 2006 Honda Goldwing with a Daytona 2+2 sidecar

My Sweetums rides a 2019 Suzuki DR650
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« Reply #1946 on: July 18, 2018, 09:45:59 AM »

Congrats Hardrockminor!

Lots of good advice here. I did just receive my new rectifier/regulator. I'll be installing that next

Now that I have a brand new set of coils that I just received yesterday, I installed them and the coil in the #1 #4  position still didn't work. The #2 #3 coil works fine.
So, I swapped them and the coil in the #1 #4 position didn't work even though it worked in the #2 #3position.

That would indicate that it has something to do with the Dyna ignition system.

I did follow the Dynatek testing procedure for the ignition system and everything checks out fine but obviously something isn't right.
It has to be something with either the #1 #4 sending unit or the Dyna wiring harness even though they both test fine.

I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually. I'd much rather be riding it! :-)
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Current Rides - 1973 Kawasaki Z1, 1976 Kawasaki KZ900 custom, 1987 Honda Shadow 1100
1975 Kawasaki Z1 B 900 restoration project.
Past rides - 1989 Kawasaki Ninja 600R, Yamaha RZ350, Kawasaki GPZ750, Kawasaki 500 Triple, Yamaha RD350, Yamaha 100 Twin Jet.
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« Reply #1947 on: July 18, 2018, 05:06:36 PM »
My experience is with cars, so bear with me on this. What I know so far. Correct voltage at the coil, and equal. New coils, new reg/rec, swapping coils produced same result, so leads me to believe the pickup or the brain is not telling the coil to fire. If there are separate connections in the harness for the non firing pair I would recheck those. Guess there’s a reason they have the trouble shooting PDF, when really it should be plug and play, like when I ditched the points in my car.
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« Reply #1948 on: July 18, 2018, 06:44:37 PM »
Remembered to bring my meter home to check the charging system on the LeMans.

It appears the alternator rotor and rectifier have given up.

Time to give MG cycle some money.
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« Reply #1949 on: July 18, 2018, 07:28:07 PM »
Quote from: Twisted_Twin on July 18, 2018, 06:44:37 PM
Remembered to bring my meter home to check the charging system on the LeMans.

It appears the alternator rotor and rectifier have given up.

Time to give MG cycle some money.

  MG Yup.

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 1975 Honda 400-4 SS
 2001 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport
 2006 Yamaha FJR 1300
1972 Norton Combat Roadster 810
 1972 BMW R75/2 SWB
 1980 Honda CBX
 1970 Honda Trail 50 K1
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