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Title: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: Galactica on February 14, 2023, 08:09:20 PM
Does anyone happen to remember the oil of wintergreen mixture for rejuvenating rubber?   I have some oil of wintergreen and would like to try it.


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: hardrockminer on February 15, 2023, 05:25:04 AM
I was told that Xylene works.  I bought some a couple of years ago but haven't tried it.


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: fffCycles on February 15, 2023, 08:32:05 AM
I believe it was Bear that told about this one and I have seen it a few other places.
Put the rubber in a small pot so you can cover with water add a teaspoon of wintergreen oil for each 10-12 ounces of water heat up to a low simmer for 2-4 minutes then let cool. Has worked pretty good for me. In general I use the Wurth’s rubber recovery putting the item in a plastic bag and spraying then sealing for a couple of days
Frank


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: Twisted_Twin on February 15, 2023, 04:46:49 PM
This stuff is the business:

https://www.amazon.ca/MG-Chemicals-Rubber-Liquid-Bottle/dp/B008O9X3KS


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: Galactica on February 15, 2023, 07:38:54 PM
This stuff is the business:

https://www.amazon.ca/MG-Chemicals-Rubber-Liquid-Bottle/dp/B008O9X3KS

I already have a couple of bottles of oil of wintergreen.  I texted Bear.  He’s going to take a look in his files and see if he can find his recipe.  Hopefully he’ll get back to me tomorrow.  Meanwhile I’ve begun dismantling and cleaning.


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: Hawkeye on February 15, 2023, 09:11:52 PM
I don't know about rubber, but neoprene responds well to carb cleaner. Plumps it up in a couple of minutes. The fuel valve on the CB750 was dripping. I took the insert out and soaked it for a few minutes, then fished it out and let it dry. Put the valve back in and fueled it up. I lost track of how many years it still held.

RD, did you leave the same petcock in when you worked on the bike?


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: hardrockminer on February 16, 2023, 05:33:53 AM
This stuff is the business:

https://www.amazon.ca/MG-Chemicals-Rubber-Liquid-Bottle/dp/B008O9X3KS

I see Xylene on the list of ingredients!


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: fffCycles on February 16, 2023, 10:23:25 AM
And methyl salicylate, which is the active ingredient of Wintergreen oil.
Frank


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: Galactica on February 16, 2023, 05:37:31 PM
I have oil of wintergreen and xylene.  I’m wondering what mixture ratio I should use, how long to soak the rubber, etc.


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: hardrockminer on February 17, 2023, 05:35:11 AM
For the Xylene I was told 15 minutes, and do it outdoors because of fumes.


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: Galactica on February 17, 2023, 11:21:00 AM
I was just talking to Bear.  His recipe is:

Using appropriate PPE (respirator and gloves), in a covered glass container, use a 5:1 mixture (5 parts xylene to 1 part oil of wintergreen).  Immerse rubber parts and check every two hours. 

Smaller items like grommets can swell too much to fit back into the holes and carb boots can grow in length.  So care must be taken. 


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: Galactica on February 20, 2023, 08:08:19 PM
By golly, it works.  Thanks for the info, Bear.


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: rz5mark on February 28, 2023, 06:26:55 PM
Wgere do you get xylene ?


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: Galactica on February 28, 2023, 08:28:30 PM
Sorry, I’ve no idea.  I’ve had it for eight, nine years or more.  Seems to me I found it on a work site I was on.  Someone said it was a good degreaser.  Thankfully I never used it.  It’s really toxic cancerous stuff. 


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: hardrockminer on February 28, 2023, 08:30:06 PM
I picked a can up at Home Depot.  I think it was the Kamloops Home Depot but it may have been Squamish. 


Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: Runningdog on March 01, 2023, 07:35:04 AM
Some more info, gleaned from the Concours forum:

https://forum.concours.org/index.php?threads%2Fsoftening-hard-carb-boots.7648%2F&fbclid=IwAR3J4RNv1HwfkunW-eYg5K07OByxAn8ctiU_vWBRlabBab4GoDDyyDx3560#:~:text=Simmer%20the%20carb%20boots%20in,the%20bottom%20of%20the%20pan



Title: Re: Rejuvenating rubber
Post by: rz5mark on March 09, 2023, 07:09:18 PM
I did the process a few days ago. 70% xylene-30% oil of wintergreen. 12hrs. Worked quite well.